NEBP FAQ
Questions? Check out answers to some Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below.
Proposals are due October 28, 2022 and need to be submitted to nebp [at] sympa.montana.edu.
Yes, each indivudual team must choose between the two tracks. The equipment and supplies each team will receive is substantial as is the learning required. Information about each track is in the menu on the left.
Yes, every selected team must participate in the project from January 2023 through at least May 2024. The annular eclipse on October 14, 2023 is an important data collection opportunity for the Atmospheric Science teams and it is a vital dry run for the Engineering teams. Engineering teams will also be collecting important atmospheric science data during the annular eclipse.
Each team must provide:
- A team leader who holds a position at the team’s leading institution,
- Student support (funding, credits, and/or recognition),
- Funding for travel to field locations during both the 2023 and 2024 eclipse campaigns, and
- Funding for purchase of helium
Look at the information on our funding page.
We're working to provide resources on our DEIA page.
We recommend:
- communicating with your state's Space Grant program (https://www.nasa.gov/stem/spacegrant/home/Space_Grant_Consortium_Websites.html)
- seeking funding from your home institution, college, department, and/or student research office
- working with your institution's office of sponsored programs to identify external sources of funding
No, teams will not receive any funding from NEBP. Those teams who receive additional support for travel and helium will receive the support as a reimbursement, not as a grant. NEBP wants your institutions to know you are participating, but there will be no grant-like agreement between the institutions and NEBP.
Please join our email distribution list. Once we get moving with the project in January 2023, teams will be in contact continually with their pod.
Teams need to attend the workshop for their pod so that the pod can build a sense of community and so that no workshop has too many or too few participants. Teams can look at the current list of pods to get an idea of what the pods will likely be. We will have finalized pods once all teams have been chosen (by November 30).
We recommend no fewer than 6 and probably not more than 15 unless the team has a lot of travel support and has additional roles beyond those listed on our suggested student roles page.
We expect the minimum time commitment over the course of the project will be about 120 hours (many teams and individuals will invest far more time). Of this, we anticipate that about 15% (18 hours) will go toward the non-technical skills that help build your STEM career portfolio. These educational options will cover topics such as teamwork, communication and diversity, equity, inclusion and access among many others.
Most of the technical skills students will learn – whether that is in atmospheric science or engineering – will be in-person with their team leader or guests from the NEBP project. On the other hand, most of the STEM career portfolio building skills will be delivered in a variety of online formats – some live and some asynchronous (recorded or self-paced).
Several of the STEM career portfolio building skills will be bundled into “learning pathways,” which help a participant dive deeply into a topic. Students who wish to complete a Learning Pathway can earn a certificate of achievement; a NASA digital badge; and a signed letter from the NEBP Program Director – all valuable assets to put in a career portfolio and show to a future employer! And, who knows, we might be able to offer some cool NASA gear, too.
Some academic institutions may offer academic credit for participation; however, this is not guaranteed and will vary from institution to institution.
The NEBP project is at its core an educational project. Career skills, such as teamwork, public speaking, and leadershop are important for future education and jobs.
Absolutely! We highly encourage team mentors to offer special topics courses for their potential team members. We've created suggested course syllabi. Even if you can't offer a course, the syllabi are a helpful list of topics. We'll provide all of the learning resources listed in the syllabi.
None! NEBP has a leadership team of regional “Pod Leaders” with all the experience required to perform team training for teams within their region. Regional maps can be found here.
By participating in NEBP, students will learn:
- how to conduct collaborative scientific research,
- components of safe and successful field work,
- basic physics of the atmosphere,
- data quality control/cleaning and analysis,
- STEM career skills, and
- the ability to share findings with the public through effective science communication.
Check out our contacts page!
The Atmospheric Science Workshops will be five days long, including travel time.
Expectations are listed on the Atmospheric Science information page.
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That depends on the trajectory predictions and the range of the video streaming system. It would be good to at least prepare for the possibility of having the ground station (staffed) located "down-range" - closer to where the balloon will be during totality (at altitude). This might mean you'll need extra people on your team or, at least, plan to find some bystanders to help with the launch (which will be well before totality, so people won't be busy).
Limited. The details of each individually designed custom experiments are up to the team designing them.
The Engineering workshops are five days of content; travel days are in addition.
Yes, each engineering team must fly the standard engineering payloads. There is capacity on the payload string for custom payloads as long as the entire weight is under 12 pounds.
Yes. Some parts of the Engineering payloads and ground station will have to be put together mechanically and electrically. NEBP will soon provide the list of materials each fully-supported engineering team will receive.
Yes. Basic soldering is required. Surface mount soldering is not required.
No. Basic hand tools and soldering stations will not be provided. Required specialty tools will be provided.
Tarps, regulators and gloves will be provided. Wind meters will not be provided.
NEBP has limited spare parts however links for replacing parts will be provided.
This is an Iridium Satellite based asset tracker that we use to determine the location of the balloon and to send commands to the balloon payloads.
Yes. The tracking websites we provide for real time position updates are used by the FAA and the modem is required to provide those updates. We also send commands for flight termination and vent control through the Iridium Satellite system. The modem and antennas will be supplied in the engineering kit for each team.
The current rate is $13.00 per month and $0.00133 per byte. Typical flights use around 65kb and cost $85. Each team will have to have a credit card on file with NAL Research to pay for the monthly charges.
The tracking websites can be found at eclipse.rci.montana.edu and https://borealis.rci.montana.edu.
- How do I access my live stream videos which have been archived? Login with your credentials and a list of all videos captured by eclipse teams will be available.
- Where can I get the NASA Adult Media Release Form or the NASA (Minor) Media Release Form
- What is the new tracking website address? Contact Shane or see EAR 15 email
- How do I use the supplied balloon filling equipment and how much helium should I use
- How do I charge the system batteries?
- What do we do if our acrylic base plate broke? – Download and print this plate template on a 8.5x11in paper. Make sure to select Actual size under Page Sizing & Handling within printing settings otherwise it will print small. Foam core and other lightweight materials make good replacement base plates.
- How do I retrieve videos recorded on the Pi?
- I purchased a new Maestro board and now the motors on the ground station don’t work, what are the Maestro settings?
- Cutdown initiated unexpectedly. Why did cutdown initiate without the cutdown command
being sent?
- The cutdown system has a timer which will activate cutdown after ~3 hours regardless of whether or not the cutdown command has been sent. To prevent cutdown from initiating earlier than expected, make sure to reset the cutdown system before your flight (check cutdown instructions). After resetting, you may unplug the cutdown system battery until you are ready to construct your flight string. Plugging the battery back in will reactivate the countdown timer from its last time-stamp.
- How do I set up the ad-hoc network so I may wirelessly connect to the pi with the GS laptop?
- How do I access the photos and videos stored on the Pi SD card?
- What could cause poor tracking of our payload during a flight or test?
- Why won’t the ground station track and why aren’t we receiving GPS coordinates?
- Where can I access the CAD files for 3D printed parts?
- How do I link RFD modems?
- How do I link Ubiquiti modems?
- What is a good starting point for creating a harness for the payloads built during the workshops?
- Iridium Remote Configuration Application Development Tool
- Where can I get the .STL files for 3D printed components?
- How do I live stream my video on youtube?
- What is the password to the ground station laptop? GSLaptop
- How do I create a backup/new RFD or Ubiquiti SD card?
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“The SD card on the Pi is similar to a PCs hard drive and can not be copied. You can create a backup or ‘copy’ by creating an image, a .iso file. The flash drives provided during the workshop have an 8Gb image/.iso that can be used to create a new SD card for either payload. There is a slideshow with instructions on how to start from the .iso file and create a new SD card. There is another slideshow that shows how to set up each card to work with the Ubiquiti system or the RFD system. There is a thread on our forum about backing up SD cards at: http://eclipsedesign.proboards.com/thread/9/raspberry-pi-sd-card-setup homepage is at: http://eclipsedesign.proboards.com
You will need a computer with an SD card reader and a program like Win32DiskImager and you can make copies of the SD cards.”
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- How do I reduce rotation of the payload?
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What type of thermal insulation is recommended? – Check out McMaster-Carr low temperature insulation. Depending on how much excess heat the experiment produces either the 1/4″ or 1/2” Low-Temperature Polyethylene Foam Rubber Insulation should work well. This insulation is relatively light and holds up very well to dry ice temperatures while preventing condensation during any change in temperature.
- What configuration should tracking, still image and video payloads be attached the flight string?
- How should I pick my ground station location and how do I set up the ground station downrange? – Keep in mind the 25 mile range is a line of site distance
- How much helium am I allowed to transport and what are the regulations? NOTE - Relations are subject to change, it is your responsibility to know and follow all current and future regulations. Do not rely strictly on these documents.
- I am transporting more than 440 lbs worth of helium tanks, how do I create shipping papers? – See Transportation of Helium document for information on filling out the shipping paper. Click here for editable version. Also see the Emergency Response Guide (ERG 2016) safety information (emergency response and potential hazards) for helium: Helium Emergency Guide ERG 2016
- How do I choose a launch site?